# sluggishness

**URL:** https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971
**Category:** Classic Servoy
**Created:** [June 3, 2004, 10:10pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971 "2004-06-03T22:10:54Z")
**Posts on this page:** 15
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### Author: ![RobertMeyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@RobertMeyer](https://forum.servoy.com/u/RobertMeyer)
#### Post date: [June 3, 2004, 10:10pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/1 "2004-06-03T22:10:54Z")

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i’ve noticed, since early-on, that quite often, servoy seems to just stop responding  
to mouse clicks & keyboard input for as much as 3 to 5 seconds at a  
time.

this is becoming more & more disruptive, as i often find myself dbl-clicking  
on an interface item (like opening a form in the method editor for example),  
noticing after a few seconds that it didn’t open, double-clicking in a second  
time, then suddenly all the clicks are processed, and the item quickly  
opens, (showing me the “controller, elements, dataproviders, relations”  
items) and closes again!

or many times i’m moving fields on a form; i’m moving slowly, waiting for the  
selected fields to jump to the next point on the grid, but they’re not moving  
yet, so i keep slowly dragging the mouse; when suddenly, the fields all  
jump to follow the mouse movement, and they’ve gone completely past  
where i was trying to put them - all because servoy wasn’t responding  
to my dragging.

i started keeping the activity monitor open where i can see it on the screen,  
and every time servoy is ‘freezing’ in this manner, it’s at the top of the  
list of cpu users.

in fact, while i’m sitting here typing this into a web browser, servoy  
often shows up on the top of the cpu list, and i’m not even working  
with it…

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### Author: ![bcusick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@bcusick](https://forum.servoy.com/u/bcusick)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2004, 8:38am UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/2 "2004-06-04T08:38:26Z")

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Hi Robert,

What platform are you on? What version of Servoy?

Go to the “About” in Servoy - what is the maximum memory setting there?

Bob Cusick

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### Author: ![RobertMeyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@RobertMeyer](https://forum.servoy.com/u/RobertMeyer)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/3 "2004-06-04T13:52:11Z")

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> bcusick:  
> What platform are you on? What version of Servoy?

mac os 10.3.2

i’m starting from the terminal with the command:  
java -Xmx256M -jar servoy\_developer.jar

info displayed from terminal startup:  
Servoy R2 2.0.3 build-276 on Mac OS X using Java 1.4.2\_03

thanks in advance for any help on this.

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### Author: ![bcusick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@bcusick](https://forum.servoy.com/u/bcusick)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2004, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/4 "2004-06-04T13:55:30Z")

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What kind of Hardware are you using?

Bob

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### Author: ![RobertMeyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@RobertMeyer](https://forum.servoy.com/u/RobertMeyer)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2004, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/5 "2004-06-04T17:38:55Z")

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blue & white g4, 800mhz., 512mb ram

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### Author: ![bcusick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@bcusick](https://forum.servoy.com/u/bcusick)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2004, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/6 "2004-06-04T17:43:28Z")

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Robert,

That’s VERY strange. I’ve never heard of that particular problem. Could it be you have some other deamons that are sucking up the processor cycles?

Bob

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### Author: ![RobertMeyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@RobertMeyer](https://forum.servoy.com/u/RobertMeyer)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/7 "2004-06-04T19:31:32Z")

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> bcusick:  
> Could it be you have some other deamons that are sucking up the processor cycles?

the only thing i can thing of is, i’m running os-x server on this  
machine to handle my e-mail & web site, but there’s virtually NO  
activity at all; maybe i get one or two e-mails a day from friends,  
and that’s it.

according to the activity monitor, the only thing eating cpu time  
is servoy…

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### Author: ![lucidlee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@lucidlee](https://forum.servoy.com/u/lucidlee)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2004, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/8 "2004-06-06T13:29:00Z")

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> RobertMeyer:  
> i’ve noticed, since early-on, that quite often, servoy seems to just stop responding  
> to mouse clicks & keyboard input for as much as 3 to 5 seconds at a  
> time.

I’m experienceing this when stepping through the records in Browse mode. When I can click on the find next button the firstt three or four records come up with pretty much instantaneous results but then there’ll be a pause of a few seconds before the fifth and sixth come up. The cycle repeats every 3-4 records. The problem occurs whether I type ahead or wait the delay out before clicking. It feels like some internal cache has to be filled up before the records can be displayed.

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### Author: ![jcompagner](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/forum.servoy.com/jcompagner/32/4889_2.png) [@jcompagner](https://forum.servoy.com/u/jcompagner)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/9 "2004-06-07T08:29:26Z")

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this is pretty strange because records are loaded in chunks of 20. So 3 or 4 is very strange. Are you using blobs/media in youre records?  
Where does the database resides. On the same computer or network or further away?

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### Author: ![lucidlee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@lucidlee](https://forum.servoy.com/u/lucidlee)
#### Post date: [June 7, 2004, 1:36pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/10 "2004-06-07T13:36:52Z")

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> jcompagner:  
> this is pretty strange because records are loaded in chunks of 20. So 3 or 4 is very strange. Are you using blobs/media in youre records?  
> Where does the database resides. On the same computer or network or further away?

I’m running the database on the same machine (OSX 10.3.4 Graphite G4 500MHz 500Mb) at the moment. No BOBS/media. A beginner’s database really - 4 tables of which the biggest has 320 records.

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### Author: ![uwgenetics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dc4da7/32.png) [@uwgenetics](https://forum.servoy.com/u/uwgenetics)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2004, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/11 "2004-06-09T20:57:32Z")

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I’m sorry to say that I am experiencing similar difficulties. Within just the last 30 minutes Servoy has

- greyed out the Designer menu item, thereby not allowing me to go back into Designer mode

- given me a Methods window that won’t allow me to type any text in, or delete any text

- the Methods window won’t allow me to even select a word of text; either an entire line gets selcted, or nothing gets selected.

- switching to Methods has given me the spinning beach ball, and then returns me to the state just described.

I find myself quitting and relaunching Servoy 2-3 times a day on average in order to regain a stable work enviroment.

Mac OS X 10.3.4, G5, 2G ram, Servoy Dev. 2.03. in the infoPlist file I have adjusted the VMOptions to -Xmx300M.

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### Author: ![jcompagner](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex010/user_avatar/forum.servoy.com/jcompagner/32/4889_2.png) [@jcompagner](https://forum.servoy.com/u/jcompagner)
#### Post date: [June 11, 2004, 9:39am UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/12 "2004-06-11T09:39:57Z")

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if you have that. Can you see what memory servoy is using in 2 places:

what the taskmanager is saying (so the os itself)  
and what the about dialog of servoy is saying?

Design menuitem graying out i have heard more. But i never have been able to reproduce that on my machine… ![:(]( "Sad")

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### Author: ![uwgenetics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dc4da7/32.png) [@uwgenetics](https://forum.servoy.com/u/uwgenetics)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2004, 3:20pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/13 "2004-06-14T15:20:21Z")

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> jcompagner:  
> if you have that. Can you see what memory servoy is using in 2 places:
> 
> what the taskmanager is saying (so the os itself)  
> and what the about dialog of servoy is saying?
> 
> Design menuitem graying out i have heard more. But i never have been able to reproduce that on my machine… ![:(]( "Sad")

I certainly will record these the next time this happens. In the meantime, for reasons unrelated to this thread, I have moved from a local Firebird repository to a remote MySQL repository. One day of work from a different machine (a G4) yielded no problems. Now I’m back on the G5, and I can say that at least so far, responsiveness is already better for things like text properties. So my ongoing theory is that the repository db may have been at least part of the cause. I will keep you posted if these issues continue or resurface. -Peter

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### Author: ![uwgenetics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/dc4da7/32.png) [@uwgenetics](https://forum.servoy.com/u/uwgenetics)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/14 "2004-06-21T19:55:13Z")

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> jcompagner:  
> if you have that. Can you see what memory servoy is using in 2 places:
> 
> what the taskmanager is saying (so the os itself)  
> and what the about dialog of servoy is saying?
> 
> There are times, such as right now, when I cannot even access the About Dialog in Servoy. Activity Monitor in OS X shows memory of about 157 MB. CPU use fluctuates, and has gone above 40% and even 119%!
> 
> Just now I was able to access About and the memory use range is something like 280 to 320 MB.
> 
> One other operation that is distressingly slow is the ValueList dialog box, which takes _eons_ to open. Again, this is a dual 2.5 G5 running Mac OS X 10.3.4. I suppose that some if thgis is Apple’s fault, but I urge Servoy to do what it can to help get this performance issue resolved. It really cuts into productivity. Thank you. -Pw

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### Author: ![RobertMeyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@RobertMeyer](https://forum.servoy.com/u/RobertMeyer)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2004, 8:02pm UTC](https://forum.servoy.com/t/sluggishness/1971/15 "2004-06-23T20:02:35Z")

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> pweil:  
> I suppose that some if thgis is Apple’s fault, but I urge Servoy to do what it can to help get this performance issue resolved. It really cuts into productivity

i have been complaining about this very issue since the  
beginning of the servoy project i’m working on. it seriously  
cuts productivity for me as well.
