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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby Mark Voorboom » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:05 am


Hope to hear soon...



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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby jcompagner » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:52 am

i have seen it now also with harjo's login

if i really show the console it works fine (all the time as far as i see)
but if i hide it (or not start it at all) then the calendar bean doesn't show up. I do see a difference in the trace log then. it doesn't touch suddenly a particular jar entry of the calendar bean (which i see being touched when it works right before we show the calendar)

i asked harjo to test something so that for example it2be-calendar.jar.jnlp jnlp file is changed a bit
so that all the jar references there has a "part" attribute.

Currently it says something like:

<jar download="eager" href="/plugins/it2be-calendar.jar" version="1362695051883"/>
<jar download="eager" href="/plugins/it2be-calendar/migcalendar.jar" version="1362695050597"/>
<jar download="eager" href="/plugins/it2be-calendar/ical4j.jar" version="1362695046675"/>
<jar download="eager" href="/plugins/it2be-calendar/commons-lang.jar" version="1362695044709"/>

maybe if we make it:

<jar download="eager" part="calendar" href="/plugins/it2be-calendar.jar" version="1362695051883"/>
<jar download="eager" part="calendar" href="/plugins/it2be-calendar/migcalendar.jar" version="1362695050597"/>
<jar download="eager" part="calendar" href="/plugins/it2be-calendar/ical4j.jar" version="1362695046675"/>
<jar download="eager" part="calendar" href="/plugins/it2be-calendar/commons-lang.jar" version="1362695044709"/>

then webstart really knows these belong to each other.
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby Hans Nieuwenhuis » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:00 am

Johan,

Good to see that You really saw the issue.
Would this also explain why it sometimes misses the dbtreeview.jar bean ?

Because that is not included in any jnlp or ?
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby jcompagner » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:57 am

no, because that bean is really in its own generated jnlp file with just 1 entry
So my guess is that the above doesn't really work, but i just wanted it to try out
Some bean that are loaded can't be found maybe because they don't use the right classloader somehow. But how is that possible that there is a difference between showing or not showing the java console..

Then we encountered this:

https://forums.oracle.com/thread/2552941

thats in the core the same thing..

And i guess i can somehow fix this by setting the right classloader..
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby jcompagner » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:11 pm

because i can't seem to reproduce it locally and i think i have a fix. But i like to test it, can somebody test 2 updated jars (j2db.jar and j2dbdev.jar) on there app server (i have currently 6.1.x jars, 6.0.x are cooking)
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby Hans Nieuwenhuis » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:42 pm

If You need 5.2.x tested I can do it.

EDIT : I can also reproduce it in 7.1 so I can test that one too !
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby Harjo » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:55 pm

the jar's for 6.0.x fails here... still the same issue, it2be calendar & dbtree missing, when the console is not shown.... :(
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby Harjo » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:42 am

Johan has been working hard, last night. And we have fix now for Servoy 6.0.9

In both cases the calendarbean and the dbtreeview loads fine now with the latest Java 7 update 25, without openening the console

Thanks JOHAN!! :D :D
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby Hans Nieuwenhuis » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:05 am

Indeed : Thanks Johan, great job !!

Is this something Oracle changed without announcement ?

B.t.w. When can we expect updates for 5.2.x and 7.1.x ??

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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby lwjwillemsen » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:23 am

Is there a public Servoy case where we can follow the developments on this issue ?
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby jcompagner » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:33 pm

Hans Nieuwenhuis wrote:Is this something Oracle changed without announcement ?


no this is a plain bug in javawebstart that oracle did introduce.
They set something wrong. (so i don't think they announced this ;) )

Hans Nieuwenhuis wrote:B.t.w. When can we expect updates for 5.2.x and 7.1.x ??


i updated 6.0 and up.

and 6.1 and 7.2 will be released in about 2 weeks.
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby Hans Nieuwenhuis » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:42 pm

Ok, thanks Johan

But what about 5.2.x ??
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby Andrei Costescu » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:16 pm

JIRA Case: https://support.servoy.com/browse/SVY-4749
Java 7 is not supported in 5.2.x (case contains wiki link).
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby Hans Nieuwenhuis » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:51 pm

Hi,

I did not realize that Servoy 5.2.x does not support Java 7, Servoy says it is in the Wiki.
We are planning to upgrade from servoy 5 to 7 in Q4 this year

But we have technical engineers who need the latest Java (7) version.
I could also have them install java 6, but they will have to start by using

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin\javaws.exe http://appserver:8080/servoy-client/servoy_client/solution.jnlp


Because if the start using a browser, the latest java will be used.

Am I right with this ?
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Re: java 1.7.0_25 continued

Postby Jan Blok » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:43 pm

Hans Nieuwenhuis wrote:I did not realize that Servoy 5.2.x does not support Java 7, Servoy says it is in the Wiki.

http://wiki.servoy.com/display/Serv52/Smart+Client does intentionally not list Java 7
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