Java 8u31

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Java 8u31

Postby lwjwillemsen » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:49 pm

Info after reports of our customers :

Servoy smart client start up time is approx. 4-5 times slower in Java 8u31 than in Java 8u25.
(JDK-8071711)

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Re: Java 8u31

Postby lwjwillemsen » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:27 am

JDK-8071711 is closed because it is a duplicate of JDK-8069161.
JDK-8069161 is not visible (to me) in the JDK bug system.
I think some Servoy boys or girls to be a member of the JDK bug system.

Can someone of Servoy take a peek in JDK-8069161 and look for the current status ?

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Re: Java 8u31

Postby lwjwillemsen » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:30 pm

@Servoy,

Please some comment / cooperation...

More and more Servoy smart client users are updating Java (8 + 7) :(
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Re: Java 8u31

Postby Harjo » Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:02 am

We see the same thing, of slowing startups of smartclients...
I already talkes about Johan about this. He has no access also to that other JDK ticket...
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Re: Java 8u31

Postby mboegem » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:23 pm

lwjwillemsen wrote:@Servoy,

Please some comment / cooperation...

More and more Servoy smart client users are updating Java (8 + 7)


The forum is a place for the community, Servoy employees will be around on a 'best effort' base.
If you have urgent issues please open a ticket at support.servoy.com with the priority set to match the urgency.
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Re: Java 8u31

Postby omar » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:18 pm

For what it's worth I noticed longer startup teams in Netbeans as well... And it looks like other non-Servoy parties are affected as well:

https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8071711?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:changehistory-tabpanel

Maybe Oracle has some fixing (or explaining) to do.
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Re: Java 8u31

Postby jcompagner » Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:50 am

servoy just can't really do anything about this. I think it is just related to the signing/jar verifyer
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Re: Java 8u31

Postby lwjwillemsen » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:31 pm

Hi Johan,

Maybe you could raise an issue / inform / make noise (at behalf of Servoy developers) at Oracle through your Servoy - Oracle channels ?
(And inform the Servoy developers about status...)

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Re: Java 8u31

Postby jcompagner » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:54 pm

that would be of no use, its already a know issue as we see in the various bug reports
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Re: Java 8u31

Postby lwjwillemsen » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:10 am

8u40 is out.
Smart client startup time 8u31 : 5 x 8u25
Smart client startup time 8u40 : 2.5 x 8u25 (Solved ?)

No bug fix report, it looks like no user (including Servoy) in the world can follow what Oracle is doing or not on this matter.
Scary stuff...

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Re: Java 8u31

Postby david » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:48 am

"Oracle has just given you another reason not to install Java on your Mac" https://grahamcluley.com/2015/03/oracle-java-mac/
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Re: Java 8u31

Postby Harjo » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:21 pm

yeah, really unbelievable.... :evil:
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Re: Java 8u31

Postby ROCLASI » Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:08 pm

Really time to start moving to NG-Client (when it's out).
No Java needed on the desktop and you get the awesomeness of AngularJS.
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Re: Java 8u31

Postby ptalbot » Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:19 am

You know you already have that with Velocity Robert! ;)
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Re: Java 8u31

Postby lwjwillemsen » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:55 am

"Oracle has just given you another reason not to install Java on your Mac" https://grahamcluley.com/2015/03/oracle-java-mac/


Used to that (Ask toolbar / JVM) in Windows for years.
That's the least of our problems...

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