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scrollbars in body only

PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:30 pm
by jim
A small matter, maybe, but still...

When scrollbars extend into the header section, the result is not pleasing to the eye, and not what the user is likely to expect. Presumably, scrollbars could be applied at the form OR part level, for that (I believe) unusual circumstance where someone wants the header to scroll along with the body (e.g. when the form is Record View as opposed to List View, perhaps). But then, why bother with a header in such a case?

Perhaps the better (simpler) alternative is to leave the scroll property at form level, but only scroll the body, not header/footer/etc.

Thanks,

Jim

Re: scrollbars in body only

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:16 am
by Robert Huber
Hi Everybody

In supporting that request, I would like to add (precise) a bit in that would it be possible to span on table view the title over the whole width of the column and not let the slider run into the header bar (title).

Merci and thanks, Robert

jim wrote:A small matter, maybe, but still...

When scrollbars extend into the header section, the result is not pleasing to the eye, and not what the user is likely to expect. Presumably, scrollbars could be applied at the form OR part level, for that (I believe) unusual circumstance where someone wants the header to scroll along with the body (e.g. when the form is Record View as opposed to List View, perhaps). But then, why bother with a header in such a case?

Perhaps the better (simpler) alternative is to leave the scroll property at form level, but only scroll the body, not header/footer/etc.

Thanks,

Jim

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:19 am
by IT2Be
Have you added the request to the support system? I agree btw...

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:51 pm
by jim
I have now.

It seems that the Feature Request discussion group is a place to reality-test ideas before posting to the Support System database. Otherwise... why does it need to exist? Or, alternatively, why is it necessary to post feature requests to the Support System, when this forum exists?

Process could use streamlining, I think...

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:27 pm
by kazar
jim wrote:It seems that the Feature Request discussion group is a place to reality-test ideas before posting to the Support System database. Otherwise... why does it need to exist? Or, alternatively, why is it necessary to post feature requests to the Support System, when this forum exists?

Process could use streamlining, I think...


I disagree. I think you first hit it spot-on when you suggested that forums provide great places to hash out ideas and to distill the exact nature of a bug or the best way we would like a feature request to be implemented. How often does someone from Servoy post back asking for clarification here, or proposing a particular implementation and thereby opening up consideration of a new feature to our whole community for collective brainstorming. How often do we think we've encountered a bug, or do we think we need a new feature, only to find out after posting here that all we needed was complete information that is provided by our peers or by Servoy, and did not need a bug fix or new feature at all.

So these forums serve a few indispensable functions:

1. community inquiry into a problem or idea, to gather ideas together in one place, visibly to each other

2. a place for Servoy engineering to ask their preliminary questions, and to get as many of our brains as possible on the issues

3. a vetting ground to filter out as many of the false bug reports or needless feature requests, before they go into the support system db and take up our most precious resource of all:

Servoy Engineering Time

kazar

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:31 am
by chartpacs
Hi Jim,

I have also submitted a support ticket for the same issue, as discussed here:
http://forum.servoy.com/viewtopic.php?t=6893

One member (Robert Huber) posted a workaround, which I'd prefer not to have to implement, and I agree that it's rather unsightly to have scrollbars extend into the header. I hope this can resolved soon.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:37 pm
by Robert Huber
Hi Sean

chartpacs wrote:Hi Jim,

I have also submitted a support ticket for the same issue, as discussed here:
http://forum.servoy.com/viewtopic.php?t=6893

One member (Robert Huber) posted a workaround, which I'd prefer not to have to implement, and I agree that it's rather unsightly to have scrollbars extend into the header. I hope this can resolved soon.


I completely agree with you and by no means I think a workaround should be needed for such fundamental layout functionality. I just wnated to share knowledge because I did the workaround for a demo project and I don't want to look it bad, otherwise my potential customer thinks we can not do better.
Did you also mention that the same is true for the footer? I also hope it will be resolved soon, because having many workaraounds in the code does make our developer life harder.

Thanks and best regards, Robert

PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:16 pm
by chartpacs
Hi Robert,

I'm glad you found a workaround. It's just that I'll probably have a lot of list views in my solutions, so it would just be very time consuming to implement the workarounds for all of them.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:05 pm
by Robert Huber
Hi Jim, Servoyans

Can anyone say something about the status of the scrollbar running into headers and footers. I really have a problem with this behaviour as I have for axample buttons on the footer of a table list view but as the scrollbar is running into the footer it's just looking not acceptable (for the user).

Please could Servoyans give a hint when we can expect that scrollbars are not running into header and footer?
An answer would be very very welcome.

Thanks and best regards, Robert



chartpacs wrote:Hi Robert,

I'm glad you found a workaround. It's just that I'll probably have a lot of list views in my solutions, so it would just be very time consuming to implement the workarounds for all of them.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:49 pm
by yekibud
I just ran into the same problem. I have some navigation items in my header that function on my list body, but I don't want the vertical scrollbar to creep up into the header part. Maybe adding this to the "define part options" might be a good place.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:55 pm
by Jan Blok
This is implemented in Servoy 3.5.3

Column-headers in list do not align anymore with the columns

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:54 pm
by Willem
In 3.1, the scroll-bar was visible in the title-header, so right-anchored column-headers stayed aligned with the columns.
Now, in 3.5, the scrollbar is removed in the title-header and the right-anchored column-headers are shifted (with the width of the scroll-bar).

Has anyone an elegant solution for this or should I enter a case?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:33 pm
by Jan Blok
There is a difference between title header and header, besides the header there always a small cornerpanel (with dimensions you specify) which is not scrollable and therefor not used