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Postby rjacques » Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:33 pm

I wonder if anyone has gotten any of the WYSIWYG text editor beans working (like Editize.) Information on both HTML and RTF editing is appreciated.

If so, can you let us know which one you use, and perhaps give an overview of how you set it up?

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Postby Harjo » Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:58 pm

Yes, if anyone has info about this one?
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I've gotten this far with Editize

Postby david » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:19 pm

From: support@editize.com
Subject: [EDZ #BJR-56210-970]: Re: David Workman, How's the Editize Trial Coming Along?
Date: July 2, 2004 12:01:37 AM EDT
To: david@data-mosaic.com
Reply-To: support@editize.com


david@data-mosaic.com wrote:
I think it is great technology. Any chance you guys would be able to
wrap it up as a Java Bean? I would like to use it with Servoy
(http://www.servoy.com).

Hello David,

Thanks for contacting us.

The standard license for Editize does not allow for this, but we would be able to do this with you upon arrangement.

I will refer you to our developer, Kevin Yank, who will be able to discuss this with you.

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Re: I've gotten this far with Editize

Postby rjacques » Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:53 pm

Kevin Yank informed me via email that they would charge $4500 to do the neccesary work to make Editize into a Java Bean. I explained to him that I was not in a postion to bear the cost myself. Here is his reply:

rjacques wrote:Thanks for explaining your situation, Roger. I've got a pretty good idea of how Servoy would work with JavaBean type components, so no need to spend time explaining it.

Please do have any interested developers contact me directly (kevin@sitepoint.com) so that I can stay aware of demand in this area. As you say, we could definitely offer better pricing if we could justify developing a licensing system for the component.

-Kev.


If anyone wants to see this killer feature available for Servoy, please drop Kevin a note. Hopefully we will hit critical mass at some point.
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Postby IT2Be » Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:55 pm

Can you post the correct email address? I will email them right after that...
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Postby rjacques » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:15 pm

kevin@sitepoint.com

Did that one not work?

Also:
Editize Support <support@editize.com>, but he asked that we contact him directly at the sitepoint address.
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Postby IT2Be » Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:21 pm

didn't try, but my email is out the 'door'...
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Re: I've gotten this far with Editize

Postby Riccardino » Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:37 pm

rjacques wrote:If anyone wants to see this killer feature available for Servoy, please drop Kevin a note. Hopefully we will hit critical mass at some point.


Maybe I'm missing something: except the excellent images support, what Editize offers more, compared to standard Servoy rtf support?
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Re: I've gotten this far with Editize

Postby david » Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:25 pm

Riccardino wrote:Maybe I'm missing something: except the excellent images support, what Editize offers more, compared to standard Servoy rtf support?


More accurately, what does if offer more compared to the standard Servoy html box? Editize is basically a text area field with powerful formatting capabilities that writes html to the backend. Add this ability to Servoy and you have a replacement for Macromedia's Contribute. Just use Servoy with Editize to build a CMS to your website. Users could then edit regions of their website -- not just content -- but formatting as well.

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Postby rjacques » Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:00 am

- Full suport for images (that one is enough for me)
- Paragraph styles
- Tables
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Postby Riccardino » Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:30 am

rjacques wrote:- Full suport for images (that one is enough for me)
- Paragraph styles
- Tables


I've taken a closer look to it and I'm not enthusiast about images support, since the path to the image file must be entered manually and this is an almost impossible task for an unexperienced user.
No drag and drop, not even a selection dialog: definetely too difficult...
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Postby rjacques » Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:04 pm

Riccardino wrote:I've taken a closer look to it and I'm not enthusiast about images support, since the path to the image file must be entered manually and this is an almost impossible task for an unexperienced user.
No drag and drop, not even a selection dialog: definetely too difficult...


I guess it depend on who will be using it.

Do you have a better suggestion Riccardino? There are other Java based WSYWIG editors, is there one you prefer? (I'm not attached to Editize, just looking for a solution.)

Also, in the Java bean format, perhaps there is more we can do behind the scenes. I can't say for sure, but I'm hoping that there are options here. Perhaps someone with more Java experience can comment on this.
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Postby rjacques » Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:16 pm

Here's one that seems to go much farther:
http://www.ephox.com/product/eljbean/demos/default.asp

It uses an image library, and seems to have more features the Editize, but the JavaBean costs $8000 (get what you may for I guess.)
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Postby Riccardino » Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:21 am

rjacques wrote:I guess it depend on who will be using it.

It's certainly true. But if the user you're building a solution for is a power user, maybe it's possible to create the function we're talking about directly in Servoy.
I'm not sure, but I don't think it's impossible to create a method that places an html table and another method that puts an image loading it from a path entered manually.
I repeat it: I'm not sure is doable. But it doesn't seem anything impossible to do with the native tools Servoy provides us.
Of course, if paragraphs styles aren't essential. If they are, maybe Editize can be a good choice.
rjacques wrote:Do you have a better suggestion Riccardino? There are other Java based WSYWIG editors, is there one you prefer? (I'm not attached to Editize, just looking for a solution.)

Also, in the Java bean format, perhaps there is more we can do behind the scenes. I can't say for sure, but I'm hoping that there are options here. Perhaps someone with more Java experience can comment on this.


unfortunately, I'm not a java expert. I can only add that I would be happy to have a tool the allows the user to edit text contents and would also be happier if a tool like ImageMagick was available as a bean :-)

PS the other candidate, EditLive, is a very powerful tool. If the author could be interested in releasing a Servoy version...
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Postby Harjo » Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:23 pm

Hi guys!

Is there any news about this topic?
Is there anybody who uses such a rich html editor allready in Servoy?

We have a project coming up, where we need such a functionallity.
Especially images-support are important.
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