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Postby Jan Aleman » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:15 pm

In case you missed the newsletter or events section on our website:

today is the webinar launch of Servoy mobile.

17.00 Central European time
16.00 UK time
11 AM EST (New York, Boston)
8 AM PST (Los Angeles, San Francisco)

Register in time!
http://www.servoy.com/content.jsp?t=122 ... y%20Mobile
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby mboegem » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:01 pm

It was nice seeing the demo, and actually see things working from a real Servoy environment (other than the sneak previews we've seen on ServoyWorld '12)

Still a question:
* Servoy Mobile will be able to work 'offline' and then should use UUID's.
Will it also be possible to target an online client still using servoy sequences/db idents?
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby mboegem » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:33 am

Another question which popped into my head, as I work for ISV's having their solutions on-premise.

From the demo I took that you'll need to specify the server to which the servoy mobile app is going to connect.
Let's say they have 25 on-premise solutions, would this mean you need to distribute 25 different apps?
Or could specifying the server URL be a setting of the app?
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby AlanBourke » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:14 am

Watched the webcast, very interesting stuff coming up in Servoy.
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby grahamg » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:55 am

Only got to see the last half-hour - hope this was recorded and Servoy can share a link??

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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby Harjo » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:33 pm

mboegem wrote:Will it also be possible to target an online client still using servoy sequences/db idents?


I asked the same question during the session, but Paul told me it was only possible with UUID's

This will be for us a HUGE drawback, because, we can't build mobile than for our existing solutions! :cry:

and yes, setting the URL of the app, should be something we can script inside the solution!
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby Jan Aleman » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:37 pm

Excellent points. Keep them coming and make sure to get in the early adopter program so you can start using it soon. We are processing the recording and hope to have it up later today.
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby jasantana » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:02 pm

Harjo wrote:This will be for us a HUGE drawback, because, we can't build mobile than for our existing solutions! :cry:


Have a look at http://bobcusick.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07 ... ement.html it is a lot of work, but can be done.
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby Harjo » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:53 pm

jasantana wrote:
Harjo wrote:This will be for us a HUGE drawback, because, we can't build mobile than for our existing solutions! :cry:


Have a look at http://bobcusick.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07 ... ement.html it is a lot of work, but can be done.


Believe me, this will be a nightmare...
quote from Bob:
Now, what if you want to convert a solution that exists - that's using the "traditional" integer keys? My suggestion: don't.


I am testing a kind of conversion solution, that I got from somebody, no info about that.... keep my fingers crossed.. ;-)
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby mboegem » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:48 pm

Harjo wrote:Believe me, this will be a nightmare...


This depends on how you used al the keys.
If Servoy foundset objects handle your queries (so: without custom queries). You should be fine by just converting existing integer columns to varchar columns and make Servoy fill in the UUID's
Existing data should still work on your existing relations. (just don't mark your columns as UUID column in Servoy, because then Servoy will try to convert a value to a UUID object)

However when you use custom queries and DID NOT use prepared statements, you have some more work to do.
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby Harjo » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:36 pm

Marc,

that's one point, but we have already solutions with data, in Saas & on-premises, that needs to be converted than! :?
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby ROCLASI » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:48 pm

One other point that wasn't discussed is the way you can deploy updates of your solution.
Are you required to actively redownload the new solution and remove the old one or can this be (semi) automatic?
Perhaps this also depends on the mobile platform it runs on...
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby mboegem » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:21 pm

ROCLASI wrote:One other point that wasn't discussed is the way you can deploy updates of your solution.
Are you required to actively redownload the new solution and remove the old one or can this be (semi) automatic?
Perhaps this also depends on the mobile platform it runs on...


As these are going to be native apps, I assume the update methodology of the mobile platform will work here.
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby Jan Aleman » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:08 pm

The recording is live now.

http://youtu.be/f8dohd1M_pc
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Re: Servoy mobile launch

Postby jcompagner » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:38 pm

about that "problem" for new records..
the servoy mobile will always generate uuid's when creating a new record, we can't do anything else
But that doesn't mean that your datamodel needs that...

Because new records are being POST to the mobile webservice solution. then what you do there is replace the generated UUID's (also related) by the normal datamodel id's

In mobile it is important that you don't use the pk as visible data.. This is just a row identifier, because we can have UUIDS for new records and just normal pk's for records from the server.
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