Instruction to setup Servoy Headless client

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Instruction to setup Servoy Headless client

Postby akalehzan » Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:38 pm

Hi all,

Is there any instruction to setup Servoy Headless client?


Thanks,

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Postby IT2Be » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:40 pm

Yup, probably in the docs but for sure you can find headless client examples in the solutions folder jsp.files, servoy exports and a read me file.

That should get you going...

It is not too difficult once you understand what jsp is about :)
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Postby akalehzan » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:02 am

Thanks Marcel,


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tools.jar

Postby lesouef » Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:48 pm

It just does not mention where that tools.jar is supposed to come from since its not in the java folders either, or anymore (I have java 1.5.0-04)... I guess Java dev people know that, but not donkeys like me...
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Postby ROCLASI » Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:19 pm

Lesouef,

The tools.jar is part of Java JDK (J2SE Development Kit).
Most computers only have the JRE (J2SE Runtime Environment) installed.

You can find the JDK (and JRE) for 1.4.2 and 1.5 at:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp

And if you run Mac OS X just install XCode.
http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/index.html


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Postby lesouef » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:04 pm

I had been there actually, but the fuzzy names did not tell me much. Since you say it's in there, I'll pickup the smallest one and see what's inside. (Sun should think about making a version harmonizer, what a mess! all these similar names and fancy versions, v 1.4 including a module v5, etc...)
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Postby lesouef » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:39 pm

It did work. I took the JDK, pinched the tools.jar from it and the headless sample is now running OK.
God (and maybe a few others) know what the rest of the package was for! Was that supposed to be a dev kit for Java? must be a joke! Now I understand why so many people stick with Microsoft... This install, though very smart and silent, puts 20 exe on disk, not even a link anywhere to show what the 1st one to launch. So, unless you read the 1500 html pages which are going along with it... not very friendly... I am happy Servoy did not pack his stuff the same, it worked off the 1st click, which is a key feature for unpatient people like me.
Last word about the name: living in a country which has been chopping off heads for 2 centuries (stopped in 1981), the name "headless" sounds very weird and definitly a bad pick! For sure filemaker is a mile ahead for marketing names! only for marketing.
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Postby ROCLASI » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:11 pm

The JDK includes the JRE as well so it's quite a bit larger then just the JRE.

The fact that Servoy Headless client only needs the tools.jar doesn't invalidate the other files in the JDK. They are needed when you want to develop with Java.
You probably ask why Servoy doesn't bundle the tools.jar with Servoy. Simple answer. They are not allowed to bundle it. Only give a link to the website.

Hope this clears things up.
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Postby lesouef » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:41 am

clear.
It's just that if you are not "java dev aware", you ignore the purpose of all those libs and you can install them without any java dev studio (I read a bit more since then), which is a bit confusing to me. But never mind, I got the thing running, and that was the main thing since I am only starting with servoy and wants to make sure of what can be done/not done on a PDA with it.
and thanks for the direction.
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