I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

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I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby Kahuna » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:50 pm

After having to ctrl_alt_del out of a hung Servoy run (writing an XML File) I found my servoy developer would not open, splash screen the the 5.b text then it closed again.

I've had this before a couple of weeks ago and with Roberst help realised it was a broken workspace. I've lost a dyas effort again (though I may still be able to recover some of the forms and code changed today with a text viewer).

Q. Why does the workspace break?
Q. Is there something I can check or replace to recover my workspace?
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby Harjo » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:56 pm

I had this also, most of the time, the subversive, libs where damaged or something. :o
I personally never lost any method or form that I changed

after that I switched over to subclipse, and never had the problem again (broken workspace)

but y ou can easily restore your workspace.

just move the .metadata folder from your workspace and open Servoy again. You start clean

Now import in Eclipse your current projects (I think: Import, general, projects.... outof my head) and you are back to go.
if you use svn, you have to share your projects again
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby Kahuna » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:33 pm

Thanks Harjo - I created a new WK Space and did the import on that and it appears (so far :D ) thats even the SVS has been broaught back in.

We're puttin a script in tomorrow to run every hour on the workspace and twice a day on the entire Servoy dir!

Bit of overkill but until we can feel safe that Servoy will keel the workspace intact looks like the only way to go!
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby ROCLASI » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:47 pm

Hi Ian,

Kahuna wrote:I created a new WK Space and did the import on that and it appears (so far :D ) thats even the SVS has been broaught back in.


That's my experience too. The SVN meta data seems to come with it. Very nice.
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby Kahuna » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:52 pm

ROCLASI wrote:Hi Ian,

Kahuna wrote:I created a new WK Space and did the import on that and it appears (so far :D ) thats even the SVS has been broaught back in.


That's my experience too. The SVN meta data seems to come with it. Very nice.


I watched your VUG - very timely- :D Had clumps of hair in my hand at the time :( :shock: :oops: :D
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby jcompagner » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:46 am

Kahuna wrote:
Bit of overkill but until we can feel safe that Servoy will keel the workspace intact looks like the only way to go!


this is not servoy's problems but a problem of the plugins that you install
Dont use subversive but use subclipse then the problem you are having wont happen.
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby Kahuna » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:57 am

Thanks Johan - but I thought all the comments I'd heard from Servoy was that Subversive was the preferred option for SVN? :?
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby jcompagner » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:06 am

all the developers that develop servoy itself are using subclipse.

Only in the beginning of 4.0 there was a performance bug in subclipse and because of that some support people moved to subversive and told the rest of the world to use that.
But it seems that subversive has way more serious bugs

That performance bug is already fixed long time ago, besides that, subclipse is from the makes of subversion itself. So new features are first always coming to subclipse because thats how they use it themself.
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby Kahuna » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:14 am

jcompagner wrote:all the developers that develop servoy itself are using subclipse.

Only in the beginning of 4.0 there was a performance bug in subclipse and because of that some support people moved to subversive and told the rest of the world to use that.

Thanks Johan. Can you advise on set-up with SubClipse - we've been using Projectlocker is there some similar organisation for Subclipse?
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby ROCLASI » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:40 am

Hi Ian,

You can use either tool with Projectlocker. They are both Subversion clients/frontends.
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby jcompagner » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:17 pm

Kahuna wrote:
jcompagner wrote:all the developers that develop servoy itself are using subclipse.

Only in the beginning of 4.0 there was a performance bug in subclipse and because of that some support people moved to subversive and told the rest of the world to use that.

Thanks Johan. Can you advise on set-up with SubClipse - we've been using Projectlocker is there some similar organisation for Subclipse?


subclipse can just be installed from the help->install new software (in servoy 5+ because we added the default urls for people to use: http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.6.x)

Only thing is that i dont know what happens if you already have subversive installed, because then you would have 2 svn clients that could bite. I think harjo did that switch so maybe he call tell a bit more.
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby ROCLASI » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:22 pm

I am working on a screencast that explains how to migrate from Subversive to Subclipse.
Stay tuned.
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby Kahuna » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:12 pm

ROCLASI wrote:I am working on a screencast that explains how to migrate from Subversive to Subclipse.
Stay tuned.


Excellent Robert - we've a free half hour this afternoon - will it be ready :shock: :D
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby ROCLASI » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:19 pm

I am doing my best ;)
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Re: I Broke my Workspace AGAIN??

Postby Harjo » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:02 pm

I talked my tips & knowlegde about switching over to subclipse over the phone with Robert,
He will take that into his screencast.
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