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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby IT2Be » Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:22 pm

And there is also an (maybe upcoming) issue with Java 7 on Mac Rumors: 'Apple Once Again Blocks Java 7 Web Plug-in' http://www.macrumors.com/2013/01/31/app ... b-plug-in/
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby jcompagner » Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:47 pm

weird so they say you need to use 2 version of java 6 and java 7 that are just 1 build higher then what we have now (so micro version upgrade) (i think i was never able to do a micro upgrade from sun or oracle its those updates do _11 ->_12 not _11.build 8 -> _11 build 9)

if they disable only the browser java plugin that doesn't matter, but i don't hope that they see java webstart as the same thing.
On windows if you just kill the Java Plugin for browsers that doesn't matter for WebStart apps. Thats just for applets.
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby ROCLASI » Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:00 pm

Hi Johan,

jcompagner wrote:weird so they say you need to use 2 version of java 6 and java 7 that are just 1 build higher then what we have now (so micro version upgrade) (i think i was never able to do a micro upgrade from sun or oracle its those updates do _11 ->_12 not _11.build 8 -> _11 build 9)


I think it's just to mark anything higher than version x, whatever that new version might be. Also this will not block any intermediate builds that developers might have.

jcompagner wrote:if they disable only the browser java plugin that doesn't matter, but i don't hope that they see java webstart as the same thing.
On windows if you just kill the Java Plugin for browsers that doesn't matter for WebStart apps. Thats just for applets.


I believe it works the same way on Mac.
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby jcompagner » Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:36 pm

but that is quite a problem for java 7
u11 is just released and i think u12 is planned for June or something like that...
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby Harjo » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:58 pm

patrick wrote:it makes me think: isn't it a bit scary that you use a computer where the manufacturer simply disables stuff without your knowledge and agreement by some calling home or however this is done? Not sure I want that.



Totally agree!! I'm SOOOO done with Apple!! :evil: :evil:
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby hovw » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:50 pm

To Solve the problem

Its works for al client's osx 10.6.8 10.7 - 10.7.4

Its orcale that did not make a good version of java 1.7 for OSX.
Apple make the mistake with this file

as root change the file /System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents/Resources/XProtect.meta.p list


/System/Library/CoreServices/CoreTypes.bundle/Contents/Resources/XProtect.meta.p list


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">

<plist version="1.0">

<dict>

<!--

<key>JavaWebComponentVersionMinimum</key>

<string>1.6.0_37-b06-435</string>

-->

<key>LastModification</key>

<string>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 04:41:14 GMT</string>

<key>PlugInBlacklist</key>

<dict>

<key>10</key>

<dict>

<key>com.macromedia.Flash Player.plugin</key>

<dict>

<key>MinimumPlugInBundleVersion</key>

<string>11.3.300.271</string>

</dict>

<!--

<key>com.oracle.java.JavaAppletPlugin</key>

<dict>

<key>MinimumPlugInBundleVersion</key>

<string>1.7.11.22</string>

</dict>

-->

</dict>

</dict>

<key>Version</key>

<integer>2028</integer>

</dict>

</plist>
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby maarten » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:27 pm

Thanks for your awesome post, hovw !

Isn't it scary that Apple waited so long before completely blocking Java?
I wonder if people at Oracle, or any one else for that matter, still know their way through the Java source code.
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby lewis » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:45 pm

We are experiencing this issue on one of our sites which is using Servoy v4.x with a variety of macs accessing it from two offices

Can someone clearly explain how I can get all of those macs protected / back to normal when I have no access to those machines ??

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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby Harjo » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:48 pm

We have the following suggestion for Oracle's new Java setup screen!

https://twitter.com/harjokompagnie/stat ... 2340146178
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby ptalbot » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:37 pm

Harjo wrote:We have the following suggestion for Oracle's new Java setup screen!

Actually these 3 Billions probably don't even contain Apple's bulk, there's a lot more Java-powered devices than that @see http://www.java.com/en/about/
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby swingman » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:15 am

Oracle has just released a new version of Java for Mac, 1.7.0_13. We can now select from dropdown menus without using the cursor keys and it also fixes a transparency issue we had, some fields were dark instead of white making it difficult to see what you were typing.

Does the update break anything?
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby Harjo » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:16 am

I have installed this, but this does not fix the problem with comboboxes!
that's something Servoy has fixed (in an upcomming release!)

Maybe you are running an intermediate?
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby swingman » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:56 pm

Harjo wrote:I have installed this, but this does not fix the problem with comboboxes!
that's something Servoy has fixed (in an upcomming release!)

Maybe you are running an intermediate?


You are right. I was too quick. It only works fine when testing smart client in Developer.
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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby lewis » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:45 pm

Can I ask for some guidance from anyone, if possible, in relation to this Apple / Java issue, please

I now have a couple of sites using OS X who have several of their users not able to access the solution because it will not launch the Servoy app

There is a lot of information on this thread and I am confused as to which path is the best to take here

Could someone distil the best option to resolve this issue please

Apologies for throwing myself on your mercy :-)

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Re: Java OS X problem NEW!

Postby rafig » Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:51 pm

Hi,
as far as I can see, Apple have now released the new Java Update for 10.6.8 & Oracle the new Java 7, so you just need to make sure you update to latest versions & I assume all will be ok.
Yesterday at a client with 10.6.8 we disabled the Security/Auto download protection thing from Apple & commented out the lines in the xProtect file & it worked, but above downloads should be better solution.
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