Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby jcompagner » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:55 pm

they are all deep into native code of mac specific libs.

Grahams are 2 times exactly the same, Sjoerd is on a different place but also deep into native libs of macosx

What you can do is make bug report at oracle and attach those dumps there.

Because what did really change? its not that servoy changed (especially the native code, we have the same eclipse for some time now, and wiht 8.3 we will jump on the latest 472)

It is all a bit tricky because is it java vm code or is it native SWT code (the later is eclipse)
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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby bevil » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:52 pm

Wow. This blew up a bit... Glad to see I am not the only one. I think it is somewhat concurrent with an update to High Sierra, I have only noticed it a bit more recently.. The hs_err_pid logs seem to have significantly picked up frequency on 2 November 2016. 10.13.1 was released on September 25th 2017, and 10.13.2 on December 6th 2017. I have had more (41) of these error logs since 2 November than in the 1.5 years before 2 November (39).

It also seems clear that it is a problem that happens when Servoy developer is not the active application.. It never unexpectedly quits while I am in it. Only when I notice its window in the background simply disappearing.

Attached my log file which matches exactly the time of my crash which prompted my original message.

Graham, what is a "Project/Clean"?

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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby jcompagner » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:23 pm

Bevil's is the same as Graham

you you still have that JavaFX bean in your beans folder?
I think it is called "jfxpanel.jar" ?

remove that one for a while

I think Robert already did way back
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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby grahamg » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:30 pm

@Johan - thanks for looking at this so quickly - I'll also try getting rid of JavaFX bean

@Bevil - In Developer - Main menu Bar - select "Project" - then option "Clean"
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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby bevil » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:30 pm

Thanks Graham..

I have removed jfxpanel.jar from my two current development Servoy's. Lets see what happens...

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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby bevil » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:30 pm

Sadly it crashed again with the jfxpanel bean removed.
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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby jcompagner » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:12 am

then i am afraid that we only can wait if a next eclipse version will fix it (8.3) or that oracle fixes it in the jvm itself.
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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby bevil » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:13 am

There is another trick to instantly crash / quit Servoy on the Mac. If you click the clear console button, it also instantly vanishes..

Great.
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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby ROCLASI » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:00 pm

bevil wrote: If you click the clear console button, it also instantly vanishes..

I guess it worked as advertised....it cleared ;)
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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby ROCLASI » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:07 pm

Hi Bevil,

bevil wrote:There is another trick to instantly crash / quit Servoy on the Mac. If you click the clear console button, it also instantly vanishes..


I upgraded my VM to High Sierra and installed Developer 7.4.10 on it and tried to reproduce this but I can't.
I am wondering if there is an issue with your workspace. What you can try is to create a new workspace and import the solutions into a new workspace and work from there.
(Menubar > File > Import > General > Existing Projects into Workspace (check the checkbox 'Copy projects into workspace'))

Hope this helps.
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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby bevil » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:58 pm

Thank you Robert. I have noticed another little nugget from your message though. I thought there were probably some updates, and very lazily tried to update but Servoy updater jar always reports nothing to update. My Servoy is on 7.4.1. The lack of available updates made me just guess that I was assuming there were updates when there were not, and that Servoy 7.4 was light on updates (I also haven't been motivated enough to check the Servoy announcements forum).

I will try to actually update to 7.4.10 and see if that helps... If not, I'll clean up my workspace (although I do already have multiple workspaces for git stuff, and I think the console crashing Servoy is common in all...

Thank you..

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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby bevil » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:15 pm

I think there is an issue with the auto updates in Servoy 7.4.. See attached...

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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby grahamg » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:20 am

Agree with Bevil that clearing the Console is best(??) way to reproduce the quitting problem - also triggered it when deleting @50 lines of old/unused code.

Have created a fresh install from new 7.4.10 download with new workspace and increased memory settings in servoy.ini and that seems to have improved situation with just one crash (nothing lost) yesterday in 5+ hours coding.
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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby swingman » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:35 pm

Just a thought: 7.4.10 has a change in the way table events are handled. This change is also present in Servoy 8. You get infinite loops in code which has worked fine before. Servoy stops responding and may crash...
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Re: Servoy Developer 7 and 8 crash on MacOS

Postby pbdavis » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:23 pm

I'm having a similar problem on Mac OS Sierra 10.12.6 using Servoy 8.2.2. It was working fine earlier today. Then all of a sudden pop-ups start happening: "Unhandled event loop exception Unknown error". Click Ok. Then another pop-up Internal Error. "An SWT error has occurred. You are recommended to exit the workbench. Subsequent errors may happen and may terminate the workbench without warning..." :(

Noticed Java automatically updated today around the time this started happening. I removed the JavaAppletPlugin.plugin folder from /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ to see if this would fix it but it didn't.
Also, tried using a new workspace, this didn't fix it. Also, tried starting eclipse with -clean.
Also, tried increasing memory in servoy.ini file to 2G.

Note: the current JDK will not work with Servoy, jdk1.8.0_152.jdk. In order to get Servoy working in the first place I had to delete this version and use an earlier version.

Now looks like I'm having another Java incompatibility problem with Servoy. My log has similar entries as the ones shown here.

Anyone got some suggestions on how to fix this "Unhandled event loop exception Unknown error"?
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