Be able to display multiple windows.

It would be great to be able to display multiple separate windows at the same time. Each window could show the same form or other forms.

Here is a link to a topic asking about this feature.

I tend to agree with Bob Cusick’s response to this in a prior thread at:

http://forum.servoy.com/viewtopic.php?t=2085&start=15

Westy:
I tend to agree with Bob Cusick’s response to this in a prior thread at:

http://forum.servoy.com/viewtopic.php?t=2085&start=15

I absolutely disagree! The fact that the feature is there does not mean you missuse it. The missuse comes from the developer not from the fact the feature is there! It’s rubish to invert the terms of the proposition, like in “all males are peopl. So all people are males” !!!

This feature, although not essencial, would put alot of power and flexibility in the hands of the developer. With these comes responsability and also of course the ability to mess things up! The fact that it isn’t there only makes people figure different solutions (some times better, but not necessary alway so).

Miguel

mjekl:

Westy:
I tend to agree with Bob Cusick’s response to this in a prior thread at:

http://forum.servoy.com/viewtopic.php?t=2085&start=15

I absolutely disagree! The fact that the feature is there does not mean you missuse it. The missuse comes from the developer not from the fact the feature is there! It’s rubish to invert the terms of the proposition, like in “all males are peopl. So all people are males” !!!

This feature, although not essencial, would put alot of power and flexibility in the hands of the developer. With these comes responsability and also of course the ability to mess things up! The fact that it isn’t there only makes people figure different solutions (some times better, but not necessary alway so).

Miguel

Miguel & Bob:

I also disagree, multiple windows or multiple instances of Servoy should be an option.

I agree with Bob that multi-windows as a developer can get very hairy, but with object orientation, it need not be a nightmare. It does require more planning and structure.

As an Omnis developer, I was quite pleased when we got the ability to have multiple instances of teh same object in Omnis Studio. The times you truly need it are rare, but when you need it you need it.

Ie. I’m entering an new order, the phone rings, it’s another customer who wants me to check on his order. I don’t want to have to “complete” the new order prematurely, go look up the old order, then come back and find the incomplete new order. I just want to pop open another window, do my lookup, deal with the old customer, and then get right back to my new order where I left off.

How can I do this efficiently in Servoy?

Thanks,
Lee Snover

leesnover:
Ie. I’m entering an new order, the phone rings, it’s another customer who wants me to check on his order. I don’t want to have to “complete” the new order prematurely, go look up the old order, then come back and find the incomplete new order. I just want to pop open another window, do my lookup, deal with the old customer, and then get right back to my new order where I left off.

How can I do this efficiently in Servoy?

This is a very frequent senario in our organization also. And we haven’t begun how to answer how we will manage this in our new development with Servoy. Very interested in this conversation!

tingram:

leesnover:
Ie. I’m entering an new order, the phone rings, it’s another customer who wants me to check on his order. I don’t want to have to “complete” the new order prematurely, go look up the old order, then come back and find the incomplete new order. I just want to pop open another window, do my lookup, deal with the old customer, and then get right back to my new order where I left off.

How can I do this efficiently in Servoy?

This is a very frequent senario in our organization also. And we haven’t begun how to answer how we will manage this in our new development with Servoy. Very interested in this conversation!

I’ll add that while the feature is slightly less sophisticated in FM7, it is one of the features I appreciate the most. I do a great deal of “comparitive” work between records. I run two 20" monitors to make all this work. But it’s increased my productivity greatly, and was well worth the investment in screen real estate. Good software will not limit what a developer can do with it. I hope Servoy will respond to the need.

Regards,
Lee Snover

I am glad to see some people discuss this feature. For a while there I thought no one really cared about multiple windows, either way.

raymanj:
I am glad to see some people discuss this feature. For a while there I thought no one really cared about multiple windows, either way.

Do you guys have any work arounds to this at the moment? Can you open two Servoy Sessions on one workstation.

Regards,
Lee Snover

leesnover:

raymanj:
I am glad to see some people discuss this feature. For a while there I thought no one really cared about multiple windows, either way.

Do you guys have any work arounds to this at the moment? Can you open two Servoy Sessions on one workstation.

You can run as many instances of Servoy on a single machine as you have RAM for.

bcusick:
You can run as many instances of Servoy on a single machine as you have RAM for.

This only works on Windows not Mac OSX.

This only works on Windows not Mac OSX.

Unfortunately I am away from my setup and don’t have good Internet access here but I don’t think that is true. I think you can run multiple instances of Servoy Client from the same Mac. I know I have done so frequently when connected to different Servoy Servers (solutions) and I think I have done it as well to the same Server/solution.

raymanj:

bcusick:
You can run as many instances of Servoy on a single machine as you have RAM for.

This only works on Windows not Mac OSX.

Ummm… sorry - you’re mis-informed.

You CAN run multiple copies of both CLIENT and DEVELOPER on OS X. Really! The difference is that on OS X you have to start the additional copy of developer via the command line (since on the Mac if you just double-click the icon it will bring forward the currently running instance).

On OSX you can’t open the same binary twice. You can however copy the binary and launch both.
Opening a client twice probably meant that you downloaded a client twice and thus have 2 binaries (servoy_client.jnlp and servoy_client-1.jnlp).

Umm..reading Bob’s post I guess I am wrong.
Thru the command-line you can.

bcusick:

leesnover:

raymanj:
I am glad to see some people discuss this feature. For a while there I thought no one really cared about multiple windows, either way.

Do you guys have any work arounds to this at the moment? Can you open two Servoy Sessions on one workstation.

You can run as many instances of Servoy on a single machine as you have RAM for.

Does this count as two licenses running or one?

Thanks,
Lee

That should be two licenses since it’s two sessions on the server and that is what counts…

patrick:
That should be two licenses since it’s two sessions on the server and that is what counts…

Then its not a very cost effective work around. :-(

You DO NOT need two licenses to open two copies of DEVELOPER. But, if you open multiple client sessions - then you will use 2 concurrent client licenses.

bcusick:
You DO NOT need two licenses to open two copies of DEVELOPER. But, if you open multiple client sessions - then you will use 2 concurrent client licenses.

Bob:

I’m talking about Clients, this is a need for end user deployment.

I hope some mechanism for handling multliple sessions/windows on a Client will be in the works. :wink:

Thanks!
Lee Snover

Write a plug-in! :D