Forms do not show in Leopard (MacOS)

I am testing Servoy on Leopard and forms do not display correctly. I can just see a profile of the form I try to load, but it seems empty. Some elements display when clicking on them: some disappears when releasing the button, others persist (mostly buttons). In some cases you get a java.lang.NullPointerException, but I could not reproduce this in a consistent manner.

Any suggestion, besides going back to Tiger?

Servoy Developer
Version 3.5-build 513
Java version 1.5.0_13-119 (Mac OS X)

We cannot comment on it until Leopard is released as we are under NDA. We expect to have good news for you.

But I can confirm that you can forget Servoy (or Java) in the pre-release versions of Leopard…

Thank you Jan. Look forward to the good news.

btw, Patrick, I am using the final version of Leopard. I know I shouldn’t say that but…

In 8 hours and 3 minutes and 40 no 39 no 38 seconds we will know more!

Apple delivered it to our offices at 11.24 am…

What can you tell us Jan ?

this

Not I was hoping for… check back tomorrow… Meanwhile I’ll install the thing…

I noticed something interesting in the just released 3.5.2, check the first [enh]

http://forum.servoy.com/viewtopic.php?t=9398

Just a thought - I guess it should be possible to install Leopard as a Virtual OS on Intel Macs using Parallels/VM Ware to enable dev/testing on both systems until all our clients catch up.

Or have I missed something obvious?

As far as I know Apple does not like their OS to be virtualized…

The good news is 3.5.2 runs on Leopard. There was a bug in Apple’s Java which we run a special patch for. Apple has fixed it meanwhile but it was too late to ship it so they’ll put that patch in their next release.

Great to read that Servoy will run on the new OS.

We all sort of expect this now from Servoy but a look at a few other Development tool websites and their warnings NOT to upgrade gives an indication of just how good the Servoy dev team are.

The Leopard discs arrived this morning so trying to virtualise it will make an interesting weekend project. If I don’t post anything over the next week you’ll know Jan was right and it didn’t work :?

jaleman:
As far as I know Apple does not like their OS to be virtualized…

True, but you can install it on a separate partition and boot from that.
Still a good way to do some testing although not as convenient as virtualisation.

Thank you to Servoy for this prompt release. Now I can see my forms in Leopard.

grahamg:
The Leopard discs arrived this morning so trying to virtualise it will make an interesting weekend project. If I don’t post anything over the next week you’ll know Jan was right and it didn’t work :?

Well… from a technical point of view it can be done quite easily… No need to spend a weekend on that just fire up your favorite torrent browser. What I meant is that Apple doesn’t allow it from a legal point of view. They are afraid that Dell/IBM/HP users will start running their brilliant uber-software on this non-blessed hardware.

See the press release here

http://forum.servoy.com/viewtopic.php?t=9402

I’m not at all worried about Servoy running on Leopard. I know you guys we’ll always be on top of that type of thing. Personally I’m much more concerned that FileMaker 6 won’t run on Leopard and from what I’m hearing that’s the way it is. I’ve still got 30 or so licenses hanging around on FM 6 and it is the easiest way to send my doctors small, standalone but related subsets of data that they can mash up as much as they like! So I am very interested in how ‘virtualizing’ Tiger on a Leopard installation will work just to handle that. Because I’ll be damned if I’m going to respond to one of FM’s incessant, begging emails asking/telling/pleading with me to take advantage of their, once-in-a-lifetime, never-to-be-repeated bottom-line upgrade offer. I understand that even FM 8.5 won’t ever work with Leopard! Not to mention of course that 9 doesn’t work yet either…Some cheek…

So please Graham let me know how your virtualization turns out!

Hi John,

I have a large customer in the same situation.
I tested FMP6 for them on the pre-release versions of Leopard and it didn’t work up untill the last beta. I haven’t tested the GM or the release version but it looks good.

Hi John & Robert

Failed so far I’m afraid. Parallels kept reporting that the Leopard disc was ‘not bootable’ and couldn’t get past an early stage.

Will try with VMWare Fusion later though I expect much the same result as when I upgraded my wife’s MacBook to Leopard last night the first 40mins of the upgrade process is just ‘verifying the disk’. However, once the upgrade had finished I downloaded Servoy 3.5.2 and it just worked :)

Regards

Graham